Sunday, July 10, 2005

UPDATE - 287565 - These numbers tell tales

Thanks to Jason who resampled the image to show without a doubt what that first number is.

Original Entry:

I have found a character set very similar to what Duncan used on "numbers tell tales". It appears as if the odd numbers are dropped like a subset. The number IS 287565.

28 comments:

Chet said...

The Short family was murdered Jennifer Short kidnapped from scene and later found murdered in a body of water. They lived close to NC border and the date was 8 16 2002. Where was Duncan?

jetduncan.com said...

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Read my comment in the next post, "87565, A zip code? Probably a long shot, but... "

Maybe not such a longshot after all.

www.jetduncan.com

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http://www.JetDuncan.com said...

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I am curious.
1. What is the name of this FONT?
2. Did you purposely choose the same ink color?


This FONT does fit nicely if you stretch it by ~20%.

The two '2' in 287565 does not fit. The '2' looks like penmanship to me and the ink color is different.

Anyway, I am going with the 56578 zipcode that anonymous person found. I am not going to bother to make a statistical confidence interval as I am too sold on this number now being a zipcode in Rochert MN.

http://www.jetduncan.com
"a beginner resource about Jet Duncan"

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Anonymous said...

This is another longshot, but a common memory-enhancing trick involves exchanging letters and numbers. If you want to remember a long number, change the numbers to consonant sounds, and then think of a word that uses those consonants in the right order.
1=T
2=N
3=M
4=R
5=L
6=Sh
7=K (or a hard C)
8-V or F
9=B or P

Ordinarily you use it to develop an easy-to-remember word you can translate back to a hard-to-remember number. "Baboon" translates to 992, "Fish" translates to 86. But you could reverse it. It's sort of an on-the-fly encryption technique. The numbers 287565 would translate to NFKLShL. Maybe the subscripted numbers represent lower case letters?

On the other hand, my first bet is that the numbers could be the password to the PGP encryption key he says he used on another, more detailed journal. It would be odd for him to post the password on a web page, but it's also odd that he walked around with a kidnap victim in her hometown.

mom said...

I ran a google on the numbers 87565 and one hit was a web-hosting site http://www.cleardev.com/locations/87565.php

Maybe the numbers could have something to do with another site of his (possibly his encrypted site as suggested).

Anonymous said...

Another thought maybe the 2 is actually a Z for zipcode? Or we could be on a wild goose chase, but one never knows.

mom said...

Another search found a bit of interesting info. A search for Hwy 287 and Hwy 565 resulted in hits on Montana maps. Hwy 287 - Harrison and/or Choteau MT, and Hwy 565 - Fairfield MT. Could this be a route or routes where crimes were committed?

Anonymous said...

Could be, the guy liked to travel. I wonder if police have been able to question him at all?

mom said...

reports have said that he isn't cooperating and still isn't talking

blondchik513 said...

I hope the police look into all the stuff that is being found out all over about this creep. I know they dont speak of what they are doing, but seems like with the publics help, maybe we can find out what he did (the other two things he has a secret). I think this number is a key to something. Hopefully everyone will keep pounding away at it and discover something soon.

Thinking outloud said...

I find this kind of interesting if you look at the font, you could take the top part of that 8 and used the 6 that could be 06 then the 2, lower part of the 8 and the lower part of the 6, then the 5 making it 2005, and the 75, in that font it looks like "15" making it a date of 06-15-2005 isn't that when shit hit the fan?

Thinking outloud said...

Nevermind, i keep thinking this happened in june. It happened in may didn't? 05-15-2005

Anonymous said...

All Blogger profile web addresses have a "10" infront of the web location. So I tried this web address for Blogger:

http://www.blogger.com/profile/10287565

and it came up with a hit of "Stockshot". But the url goes nowhere now.

I keep having the encryption thing in my head... and these numbers and his hidden message of the numbers telling a tale all fit. The numbers could lead to the encryption website and that would indeed tell a tale.

Anonymous said...

I'm glad to see someone else is thinking of Jennifer Short also! I hope LE is checking that out. Great ideas here on the #s... The geocache site used a #/letter conversion like the one above A=1 or whatever, to code their clues. 6-15-05 may still be a significant date.. I'm no help - I was thinking simple things like, was his sister born in '65? '75 would make him 12, when he reports 1st sex experiences. His birthday is 2/25/63.. does 2/8 hold a significance? Numbers tell tales.. sister born, sex gates open, 28? That's clear as mud. I'm thinking out loud, but you all have some interesting points here! thx so much for this blog, great work pulling things together!

Anonymous said...

It could be something very simple. Reversed, the sequence could be read as 5,6 5/7/82. Could refer to victims by number and a date. Was he incarcerated by that time?

Thinking outloud said...

Hey guys this is a good example when i stumbled across this it gave me some goosebumps. But the series of numbers could be for a webpage that he is hiding, like i found this page. Not his off course, but at first i thought it was http://jetd.tigblog.org/xml/jetd

Doesnt have much eh? Well type the numbers 282565 behind it

http://jetd.tigblog.org/xml/jetd/282565

wow lookie more stuff hidden :D So im going to look for more pages that contains jet, jetd63, jet63, jetduncan63..ect and see if i can find something

Thinking outloud said...

287565, sorry, not use to typing onto a laptop, got so excited and stuff. I need to proof read lol sorry.

Anonymous said...

I noticed that he goes by other names on the net as joe price, happy joe..ect on here he goes by joe price, and you know its him from the fifthname email address at the bottom. I wonder what all he has done or went to on the usernets and news groups.

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.2600.hackerz/browse_frm/thread/e48867587bdf6a09/c85654d350c976e1?tvc=1&q=5th+nail&hl=en&utoken=n3BudjMAAABXS5Dzdn4YPEVi2XLJoXhIbeEQNuhjiTzJEeycmzuSithdRL_SzmXlI9n7mFPDzaRlvPUSbQLdZxu8rbVt8jAH#c85654d350c976e1

Anonymous said...

What was his inmate number while he was serving time in Wa. State? 287565 looks like an inmate identification number to me. I'll bet it's his prison ID number.

Anonymous said...

Thats an idea! what places has he been in prison for? You can look up inmate records online.

Thinking outloud said...

I was bored and looked up chisholm, mn and rochert mn and they are 4 hours apart,http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=46.856690,-95.601670&spn=3.484481,10.155212&saddr=Chisholm,+MN&daddr=Rochert+MN&hl=en

maybe when he was out scubba diving he yanked her then took her to rochert did what he did to her, and went home. Rochert is only 1 hour and 37 mins away from his home http://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=Rochert,+MN&daddr=Fargo,+ND&hl=en

Just a thought

Anonymous said...

Jonbenet Ramsey's murder was ODD, and her street address was 755 15th St. Boulder Colorado, December 26, 1996. Maybe the three digit numbers read left to right were street addresses of the two "Getting Even" episodes Duncan refers to in his blog. Does anyone know an address of an unsolved involving the numbers 286 (which are even numbers, AS IN, getting EVEN)?

Anonymous said...

Jonbenet's birthday is 8/6

Anonymous said...

Oh good grief I just had chills right up my spine, JonBenet?!! I've convicted him of every other unsolved case... how could I not think of her?
I really think the 2 is JED, the 2nd wave of evil, when he is released in 2ooo, no turning back for him... all out monster, last run.. 2 marks at the Groene house, the tree, he's born in Feb... round n round... but wow you all have your thinking caps on.. all these webpages,put the # in jetd this n that.. right over my head let me know what it all means! :)

Anonymous said...

The best idea I've seen so far is that it was Duncan's PRISON INMATE # issued to him by the Department of Corrections.

Anonymous said...

The only place I've seen a number is his picture when he was 16. I don't know if it's an arrest number or a prison number. Either way the number is RCW 9A.44.130 and it doesn't fit the number we are talking about.

Mickey Rat said...

RCW 9A.44.130, maybe this will help.

http://www.leg.wa.gov/pub/rcw/RCW%20%20%209A%20TITLE/RCW%20%20%209A.%2044%20%20CHAPTER/RCW%20%20%209A.%2044%20.130.htm

Anonymous said...

The font is Colonna MT. I thought I recognized it. The significance must be the number itself and not the positioning of the #'s...