We honor everything you are doing. Just to give you a small piece of some REAL ignorance that is in this world.... we were at a dinner tonight, I mentioned Dylans funeral, his birthday. This complete asshole said "I am so sick of hearing about this, the whole family was nothing but a bunch of druggie bikers"... I was horrified. I so wanted to slap this fuck across the face. WHAT kind of lunatic would SAY this... he seemed like a normal guy--- kind of like Duncan. I am so disgusted. The sadest part, the asshole was my brother. Saddened and disgusted... "weiner"
I reread my post. I am in shock, how could any human say this? I so want to publically post his personal phone number!!!! I am so angry tonight! This man has 4 sons!!!! God forgive him. Goodbye Dylan. My love to you sweet boy.
Your brother needs a shot of empathy right in the arm because he is certainly running low. Ask your brother what kind of crap they'd dig up on him if he came up missing or murdered. I don't think I've ever met a person without some kind of skeleton in their closet. <~ Not literally of course.
sounds like your brother is terrified by the case and can deal best with it by pushing it aside....it's hard to stare evil in the eye.
I agree with jojofox. Not excusing your brother for the horrible thing he said. But maybe it is his way of dealing with it. A way of saying, "well, I'm not a druggie/biker, so that couldn't happen to me."Before Shasta was rescued, many of us who live by the Groene's thought that it was gang or drug related. Actually, I think we just wanted to believe that because it made us feel safer. That stupid thought was the only thing that let me sleep at all at night. Now of course, I can't. I can't pretend anymore that it wasn't real.
Did you know Brenda and her boys ?
If you're talking to me, jojofox, no I didn't. I live a little further out in the country from them, about 10 miles. So I drive by their house all the time to get to "town", (Coeur d'Alene.) This whole thing has just broken my heart anyway. I can't even imagine how much worse it would be if I had known them. Guess that thing got what he wanted. To hurt as many people as possible, and he sure did.Sorry for my pathetic rambling, it isn't very constructive. 8-(
I am sending hugs your way...it is so tramatic for EVERYONE involved...horrible, horrible.Keep us up to date with what the locals are saying and what your newspapers are saying...local newspapers always have the most accurate details I have discovered. If you go to the bottom of The Cellar/s Homepage..you will see a button for MY Forum...go there and post articles from the local paper...I am sure we all want to know what is going on. I would really appreciate it. for one!! Take Care!
I wish that we all could understand, WHY. I wish that this case did not hurt me so deeply... I wish I was the type of person that could just blow it off. I can't, and I want to help in some small way. I am so very tired of ignorant people that ignore the signs. If ONE PERSON would have spoken up and said THIS GUY IS A MONSTER, lives would have been saved. Why do we have so many MONSTERS in this area? Now, I am rambling... sorry, I am sickened by my brother's comments (see above). It hurts to know that there are people who go beyond racism and make judgements based upon nothing. I just wish people would care more. I am profoundly sad. This could have happened to any of us. "Weiner"
and, part of my personal pain is that I just KNOW, in my gut that this person hurt more people than we know. I just know it.
the service was beautifulhttp://www.krem.com/news/local/stories/NW_071605IDBdylanmemorialSW.200216d.html
The Weiner Dawg,I know how you feel. I was out with my boyfriend tonight with a bunch of his friends. We had watched a documentary called hate.com they were all into it and I was appalled. We ended up getting in a very intense argument that almost turned into a fight.There belief is that the white race is superior to others and that they want America to be only of white race. I asked if the white race is so superior then why are more white people on the national sex offender’s directory for raping, molesting and killing children.Why do they discriminate against someone’s race and not by their actions?I even pointed out that they want the white race to rule and over populate America and Joseph Duncan just killed four people of the white race! They stated they would choose a Joe Duncan anytime over a person of color. I pointed out to them how stupid they sound and are. Then one of them stated, “God would forgive Duncan for he is a white man” I about slapped him in the mouth when he said that. It amazed me that they would let Duncan in their perverse world because he is a white man. I said maybe god will forgive him but he is not in god’s hands right now. He is in a jail cell because he rapped and murdered a family. I stated God does not see the color of ones skin and please never speak for god, as they are not him! I also pointed out if they took all that hate and directed it towards people like Duncan, there would have been four white peoples lives saved. They agreed with me on that and it made me even sicker to my stomach. Some people are so closed-minded that they do not open their eyes and see what is really going on. It should not matter if the groene family was black, white or a bunch of druggies. The only thing that should matter is they were all innocent and a Sexual Predator destroyed their life. When are people going to realize it could happen to them! Duncan was able to travel the United States on his own free will. He is not required to tell anyone when he leaves the state where he is going. Nor does he have to tell anyone he is a Level 3 sex offender when he gets there. How do people think nothing of what happened so sure it will not happen to them? For all they know a predator is looking in their window right now stalking their children!
Dennis Prager, one of my favorite AM conservative talk show hosts, quoted Victor Frankl, author and holocaust survivor, "There are two races of people- the decent and the indecent."To those ignoramuses who would choose a white child killer over a decent black person, may they get their perverse wish.
I too, am stuck on the why. After reading the parole board notes, I decided to look up the word psychopath.Now, I think I understand. But, my question is, how could they let a psychopath out of prison. Did they think he was cured? Maybe, the mask of sanity he wore fooled everyone in the end.http://human-nature.com/nibbs/01/psychopathy.htmlhttp://www.cassiopaea.com/cassiopaea/psychopath.htm
Dear Weiner DawgBy posting at THE CELLAR and by investigating and connecting Duncan to other "possible" crimes against innocent children, some of us feel we are helping.How many other children did he dispose of?For every child abduction/murder that goes unsolved, sexual predators get proof that they can get away with these crimes. For every case that gets solved, we prove they are wrong !Doing this is how we at THE CELLAR feel that we are helping.We get information through our investigation and pass it on to LE. We ARE helping. If we want America to be safe for our children- we have to do this!God Bless.
REST IN PEACE DYLAN. SADL'Y ITS OVER A YEAR SINCE YOUR UNTIMELY DEATH. MANY RUMORS AND VARIOUS HERESAY EVIDENCE HAS ALL BUT CONVICTED JOSEPH DUNCAN OF YOUR MURDER. BOTTOM LINE, THERE IS NO DNA. NO EYEWITNESSES WITNESSES TO THE HOMICIDE. ONLY THE HEARSAY STATEMENTS OF A 9 YEAR OLD GIRL. LETS GIVE JOSEPH HIS DAY IN COURT. HE MIGHT, I REPEAT HE MIGHT BE NOT GUILTY.
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