Sunday, July 17, 2005

Is this someone's child??

We've all had Duncan's videos available for a number of days, now. One of the most disturbing (to me) is the Reality video, produced sometime prior to March 2003 (dating taken from the archives).
Note: This video contains mild language
At the very end of this "movie", (around the 30 second mark), there's a person silently screaming. It looks as if this screaming person could possibly be a child.

If it is.... then whose child is this?
It looks as if this young person has an earring. The video only exposes this one ear, though.

Beth - thank you for bringing this forward.
Update: It is much easier to follow dialogues in the forum. A topic for this post has been set up here.


Anonymous said...

I don't think that's a kid. Looks like an adult to me.

"Weiner" said...

Yeah, it is difficult to tell, but it looks like an adult to me too. BUT, it would be nice to know the origin. This clip is so creepy. I can't quite make out what he is saying.

Ana said...

Considering his penchant for filming his victims, I think it looks like the moment before death.

Anonymous said...

they updated the sasha/panda conspiracy site with a new entry.

Anonymous said...

It looks like an adult to me...but adult or child, the look on his face is a look of terror.
I feel that by the very disturbing demeanor of Duncan's anger and rage in this video, that Duncan just video taped himself right after hurting this person, therefore ending the video with the person he just committed this act on.
I cold then see Duncan placing this "victim" at the end of his video, as a "trophy" for not getting caught...
at least not yet....
I sure hope we do find out who this is...
Keep up the great work~

Anonymous said...

That kid's pushing 30...

JoJoFox said...

What a terrifying thought...I never suspected that his is a child .....I shudder at the thought

Anonymous said...

This image on the Cellar when opening the page is disturbing.

Ana said...

My friend says this is the song he has playing in this video:

Down With The Sickness Lyrics

Drowning deep in my sea of loathing
Broken your servant I kneel
It seems what's left of my human side Is slowly changing in me

Looking at my own reflection
When suddenly it changes
Violently it changes (oh no)
There is no turning back now
You've woken up the demon in me

Get up, come on get down with the sickness
Open up your hate, and let it flow into me
You mother get up
You fucker get up
Madness is the gift, that has been given to me

I can see inside you, the sickness is rising
Don't try to deny what you feel
It seems that all that was good has died
And is decaying in me

It seems you're having some trouble
In dealing with these changes
Living with these changes (oh no)
The world is a scary place
Now that you've woken up the demon in me

(And when I dream)
No mommy, don't do it again
Don't do it again
I'll be a good boy
I'll be a good boy, I promise
No mommy don't hit me
Why did you have to hit me like that
Why did you have to be such a bitch
Why don't you,
Why don't you fuck off and die
Why can't you just fuck off and die
Why can't you just leave here and die
Never stick your hand in my face again bitch
I don't need this shit
You stupid sadistic abusive fucking whore
How would you have to see how it feels mommy
Here it comes, get ready to die

IslndNymph said...

Doesn't look like a 5 year old but doesn't look like a 30 year old either. To me the person looks to be around 14; hard to say but definitely terrifying!

Anonymous said...

But what is Ducan saying/singing? He is so slurred I never could tell.
And why was this piece so important that it was one of 3 easily found videos, all on the same Jet Gazette???

One for family
One for peace
One very confused about what is real?

Anonymous said...

Nope, I think he was intoxicated and was once again comparing his plight to Afro-Americans/Slaves/Jim Crow laws, etc., and Sex offenders.

The Whiiiiiiiiner Strikes Again with a photo to make a point.

Would he show his family a 'kill' victim?

I doubt it. It is not even his preference.

denise said...

I remember seeing it somewhere before like a music video or something. I don't really remember where but it was familiar to me when I saw it.

blondchik513 said...

denise, i agree with you..its NOT a victim of Jet. this is from some kind of video. I have seen it before too, but I cant remember where

cleveland said...

Here's what he is saying in the Reality video:

"The question, it seems, that begs to be asked, is what exactly is reality?

That is the question.

What is...what is reality?

(inaudible - his lips move while the word "Sh*t" appears on screen)

What is this perception of existence that we call reality?

What is it?"

From the first time I saw this video I assumed that this was his way of questioning whether his victims truly felt what he was doing to them, whether anything he did, good or bad, really mattered - because in his mind, reality is only a perception...the "Can you feel that?" text overlay is especially haunting to me. From his blogs it seems pretty clear that he felt betrayed by everything and everyone...he was victimized as a kid, apparently, and no one stepped in and helped him. So, in his twisted mind, what really matters? What is real? Can he make people feel like he felt as a kid? Maybe then he will know his feelings were real, that all this crap really did happen to him, and it was bad...because he sees the same fear and terror in his victims.

Okay, enough armchair psychology from me...I really can't begin to imagine what's going through such a sick mind.

Prayers for the Groene family.

Anonymous said...

A link from official Dawn of the Dead - kind of leads to here:
Note the Zombie photo Duncan used on one of his blogs.

Go to the Cast Section. I'm 120% sure this is a screaming head of the actor Ken Foree.
He was not only in Dawn of the Dead as the Evanglist, but has played in a number of other movies also. The head screaming looks like a younger Ken Foree.

I'm trying to find a really good photo to validate.

Anonymous said...

Just to add:
Ken Foree was in the original 1978 Dawn of the Dead also.

Anonymous said...

If you listen to the beginning of this song, Duncan says what the lead singer does before he starts singing the song....
Listen to the lead singer, and his very first soft spoken words at the beginning before he starts singing the lyrics....

The guys says "Can you feel that" and "What is the s**t" right before the video....

Check out the video....could not link in here....

Just thought I would pass that along, as it seems that Duncan based his video around this song, and the words it represents (to him)....especially the tag line of "What is this s**" which flases across his "reality" video.

"Weiner" said...

Yes, it looks like a young Ken Foree. If you do a search on his name under images, you will find some similar. Still, disturbing

lostinlimaohio said...

I posted in the forum... but for those that haven't went there. Its in the teeth. Young children had 20 teeth, by 13 or 14 32 teeth and then wisdom teeth come around 17 to 21 years of age. This person appears to have wisdom teeth already. So I have a hard time thinking it is a child.

Anonymous said...

Looks like Jet had a fondness for music, besides that of Disturbed in his Reality video. SuperLifer (ironic name considering his siutation...) was apparently one of his favorite local bands, according to this guestbook signing on December 3, 2003:

Nealus said...

Sorry - a test

Nealus said...

Sorry - I didn't realize that I was in the system - hence - the test.

In Memory of Dylan - I was wondering if any of you know if there is an effort out there for a website in the future - dedicated to Dylan and all of the Groene family. Why I specifically mention Dylan - is because - I too am a male victim of sexual child abuse - and have found it very upsetting to learn of Dylan's fate.

I do know of the foundation(s) created for Shasta and I am aware of the loss of Dylan's brother et al.

But in my heart - I hold a special place for Dylan .... because.

I feel that this year has been such a troubling year........beginning with Jessica Lunsford. And so too, I was really taken for a loop - with the death of Jetseta Gage [please do not forget the murder of Jetseta Gage - the 10-year-old Iowa girl kidnapped by a family "friend"].

Dylan's death really upset me - mostly - because he was a male. I try to illustrate the ongoing disgusting occurrences of sexual child abuse on my Blog. But never have I come accross such a terrible crime against male childhood as I see perpetrated from Duncan.

I can't even read his Blog(s). That's how upsetting it is - to me.

When the politicans get around to creating new legistation for Crimes Against Children - and they will - and they will make sex offender's laws tougher too...

A Bill and/or Act should be named for Dylan. The amount of Rage that was perpetrated upon Dylan is beyond my life's comprehension.


The Groene family lost two boys - but what do you think of a foundation named first - for Dylan - who experienced the sexual child abuse?


I am an Author of a newly published book - My Life As A Male Victim Of Sexual Child Abuse.

Neil is my name. Nealus is my Pen Name.

Anonymous said...

I'm irritated that this guy is using this blog for his personal ad space to make money off a book. I'm sorry for his experience but wish he would leave it on his own site.

Anonymous said...

Almost as bad as advertising (spamming) on FifthNail. FIOS is Verizon's DSL service. I'll bet they didn't know who they were inadvertantly associating with. Serves the blog spammer right.

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